Entrepreneurs build businesses because they want freedom, but many quickly discover that their personal income is tied too closely to the performance of their company. When the business does well, they earn. When it doesn’t, they feel it immediately. This creates emotional stress, financial uncertainty, and long-term risk.
In this episode of Building the Premier Accounting Firm, host Roger Knecht speaks with Steve Selengut—income independence coach, bestselling author, and long-time investment portfolio manager—to explore how business owners can create monthly income that never depends on their business. The conversation offers clear strategies, mindset shifts, and practical investment principles that entrepreneurs can apply to build long-term financial security.
Meet Steve Selengut – The Income Independence Coach

Throughout the episode, Steve explains why security, stability, and predictable income—not speculation—should be the foundation of an entrepreneur’s investment plan. He describes his mission simply: to help people create “income independence,” a point where their investments reliably generate the money they need regardless of market conditions.
Finance vs. Accounting: Understanding the Difference Matters
At the start of the conversation, Steve draws a clear line between finance and accounting—two disciplines entrepreneurs often treat as the same.
Steve explains that finance is about growing and protecting assets, while accounting is about placing money in the most tax-efficient structures. As he puts it, “My idea of finance is the production of cash flow. The accountant function is putting that money into spaces where the tax consequences are lower.”
Roger adds that accountants also give entrepreneurs insight into profitability, efficiency, and long-term planning—while financial professionals help them turn that profit into lasting wealth. Understanding both sides allows business owners to operate and invest more strategically.
Why Entrepreneurs Must Stop Relying Only on Their Business
Many entrepreneurs reinvest everything back into their company because they trust it more than outside investments. But according to Steve, this is a major mistake. A business can slow down, restructure, or face unexpected challenges. Relying solely on one income source—especially one as volatile as a business—creates unnecessary risk.
Steve shares how working with financial professionals often reveals a deeper issue: entrepreneurs rarely diversify. Roger echoes this concern, saying, “So often accounting professionals see their clients putting everything back into the business. They’re not diversifying.”
Both experts agree: every entrepreneur needs a long-term financial plan that includes income sources outside the business. This creates stability, reduces stress, and protects the owner’s lifestyle no matter what happens.
What Is Income Independence?
Income independence is the heart of Steve’s investment philosophy. He describes it as the moment “where it doesn’t matter to you whether the stock market is going up and down or interest rates are trending upward or downward.” In other words, your income remains steady regardless of economic swings.
Income independence is built on three ideas:
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Your investments produce consistent income.
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Market volatility becomes an opportunity rather than a threat.
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You are no longer financially dependent on the performance of your business.
This concept is transformative for entrepreneurs who often deal with fluctuating income, unpredictable expenses, and high levels of responsibility.
Fixing the Money Mindset: Scarcity vs. Abundance
A recurring theme in the episode is the mindset entrepreneurs carry around money. Many operate with a scarcity mindset, believing money is hard to get or easy to lose. This fear prevents them from investing confidently and leads them to hold too much wealth inside their businesses.
Steve explains how predictable investment income can shift this mindset. After seeing “a blizzard of distributions” hit their accounts, new investors often move from fear to confidence. Regular cash flow builds trust and reduces anxiety about the future. As Steve notes, “It changes your mindset totally from fear to confidence.”
This shift is essential for entrepreneurs who want to build lasting wealth.
The Four Essential Investing Principles Every Entrepreneur Should Know
Steve outlines four foundational principles for building a resilient, income-producing investment portfolio. These principles are simple enough for beginners yet powerful enough to guide seasoned investors.
1. Quality
Only invest in high-quality assets. For Steve, quality means stability, reliability, and proven performance—not speculation. Whether choosing stocks, bonds, or closed-end funds, quality must be non-negotiable.
2. Diversification
Diversification is a core risk-management tool. Steve recommends diversifying across sectors, asset types, and geographies. As he explains, “Whatever’s going on, I’m going to benefit from it. It’ll produce a profit in one of my sectors.”
3. Income Production
Everything in your portfolio should produce income. Steve is clear: “Everything has to produce income.” Dividends, interest, and distributions form the foundation of income independence.
4. Profit Taking
Perhaps the most misunderstood principle, profit taking ensures that gains are locked in before market drops erase them. Steve compares investing to running a department store—your assets are inventory, and when prices rise, it’s time to sell.
Together, these four principles allow entrepreneurs to grow their money while minimizing risk.
Why Cash-Flow Investing Beats High-Growth Strategies
Rather than chasing high-growth stocks or trying to “beat the market,” Steve advocates for cash-flow investing—choosing assets that generate predictable income. High-growth strategies rely on timing, luck, and market cycles. Cash-flow investing relies on mathematics, discipline, and steady returns.
Steve’s “department store” analogy makes it clear: investments should be bought, sold, and rotated like inventory. You buy when the price is low, take profits when the price rises, and reinvest consistently.
This approach produces reliable income and avoids the emotional traps of speculative investing.
Using Market Volatility as an Opportunity, Not a Threat
Many investors panic during market downturns. Income-focused investors do the opposite. Because their primary goal is predictable income—not stock price appreciation—they can take advantage of market dips to buy more high-quality assets at discounted prices.
Steve illustrates this by noting that even during major crashes like 2008 and 2020, most income-producing investments continued their distributions. With diversification and quality in place, downturns become moments to strengthen a portfolio rather than fear it.
Retirement Strategies for Entrepreneurs: Roth vs 401(k) vs IRA
The episode also explores practical retirement strategies, including the differences between Roth IRAs, traditional IRAs, and 401(k)s. Steve suggests that younger earners benefit from Roth accounts due to long-term tax advantages, while older entrepreneurs should consider Roth conversions when appropriate.
He also emphasizes the importance of contributing at least up to the employer match in a 401(k), calling it “free money” entrepreneurs should not leave behind.
These principles help entrepreneurs build retirement security even if they start late.
How Accounting Professionals Support Entrepreneur Income Independence
Roger highlights the essential role accountants play in guiding business owners toward smarter financial habits. Accountants often see the bigger picture—when entrepreneurs are too heavily invested in their businesses, when profits are not being extracted, or when tax strategies can improve long-term outcomes.
Accountants act as trusted advisors who help entrepreneurs balance profitability, tax planning, and future wealth building. When teamed up with financial professionals, they create the perfect support system for sustainable financial success.
Final Takeaway: Build Wealth Beyond Your Business
This episode offers one message above all: entrepreneurs must build income independence if they want long-term freedom.
Relying solely on business income is risky. True financial stability comes from diversified income streams, smart cash-flow investing, and disciplined, long-term wealth strategies.
The insights shared by Steve Selengut show that income independence is achievable—not through speculation, but through quality investments, consistent profit-taking, and a mindset rooted in abundance, not fear.
To dive deeper into these strategies, listen to the full episode of Building the Premier Accounting Firm.
Don’t Miss the Previous Episode
If you found this conversation valuable, make sure to listen to the previous episode of Building the Premier Accounting Firm. It builds on similar themes of profitability, financial clarity, and smarter business decision-making. Continue your learning journey and explore more insights designed to help entrepreneurs and accounting professionals thrive.
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